Ban hammer lifted? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

MagmaRed · Jun 05, 2010, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by merek

I am crazy?.... first off you have little to no basis for that accusation second I say dear sir if anyone is crazy it would be the one who is blindly following whatever a video game company tells you. Third we have a RIGHT to know we purchased a product and want our full money's worth.. When I bought Guild Wars it was a quality product but slowly it has been declining into the jaws of oblivion.. another game on the shelf.. another microcosm in history. Also it isn't very kind to call someone crazy fanatical and over-demanding for wanting a company to do their job to the highest level possible. Now does this mean I want them to ban 4,000 a week? No, it means I would like to see a continuation of what they have started.. to finish the job not just appease the masses.

They are continuing the job, you just aren't happy with the way they have shown us that (by saying it). You evidently want visual proof. This has problems though. Visual proof can provide the people they are banning a way to avoid it, it also takes time and money (to pay staff) to not only work on the bans, but to make it visually obvious, and it still may not satisfy everyone. Anet should not base their decisions on their customers opinion on something like this. They should base their decisions on company policy, legal concerns, and financial responsibility. Just because a bot gets banned today does not mean Anet should be posting a log-in announcement about a single ban. However, that single ban will still happen, and you won't notice it happen unless it was you or a friend of yours. Large scale bans like they did a few days ago won't happen often, and when they do, it will be the result of a lot of data compilation. Now that a large number of bat accounts were banned, those people either need to start new accounts and bot again (which isn't as easy when IP bans were issued) or new methods to detect and ban the previously undetected bots need to be developed.

And don't forget, not all the bans were from botting, some were match manipulation. And some bans that have occured prior to the 3700 were from multiple 'minor' infractions that added up to a permanent ban.

Although not an accurate analogy, you are essentially asking your 10 year old neighbor's kid with an ant farm of 1000 ants to notify you when any ant dies or a new ant is hatched. Possible, but not easy to do, and why would the kid care if one ant died and tell you about it?

We paid for the game, but we are not paying for service. This means we have no right to demand Anet add game updates (which they do), no right to demand they provide game monitoring, and no right to demand they remove problem accounts. They do this because it is good business - keeping the customers happy so they will buy more products. You may not trust they are still working on detecting and banning bots, but they said they are, so we can only assume they are, or are lying to us. They do not need to prove they are doing what they say they are doing.

CronkTheImpaler · Jun 05, 2010, 11:52 PM // 23:52

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Third we have a RIGHT to know we purchased a product and want our full money's worth.. When I bought Guild Wars it was a quality product but slowly it has been declining into the jaws of oblivion.. another game on the shelf.. another microcosm in history.

^^^Really you have no legal rights to anything outside of getting what you paid for. IE you paid 39.99 for this campaign. thats it chief. You have no rights to anything. As for the melo-dramatic slowly declining into the jaws of oblivion?? You should join 6th century theater. I think you would excell at that. And as for as another microcosm in history?? i got nothin. Im not sure what thats even suppose to mean.

If you are claiming GW is being kicked to the curb like so many other games then i suppose you might be right in that aspect. GW will commit only so much resources to this title. If this upsets you to the point where you rap poetic than you seriously need to find a new hobby.

I think this topic has been bashed to a bloody pulp, but meh whatever.

Bottom line for me is, this game is Exactly what i payed for. I bought all 4 titles and they are what they advertised. Many of the changes they made i think are miserable, but its not my shareholders money so i can just shut my damn mouth.

Cronk

sixdartbart · Jun 06, 2010, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by merek

Third we have a RIGHT to know we purchased a product and want our full money's worth..

You don't know if you purchased a product or You don't know if you want your moneys worth

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Originally Posted by merek

I would like to see a continuation of what they have started.. to finish the job not just appease the masses.

So do you want to leave your phone number here and we will have Anet give you a call everytime they ban someone?

And as far as your "RIGHTS" go

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You have the right to remain silent.

Give that shot.